The State of Gaming - Game news from June - 2022

00:00:00Alright, let's say hello and welcome to the state of gaming. May has turned into June. It's summer, it's hot. So hot. Yeah, it's so hot right now. Like Hansel. So hot right now. And if you don't know that movie reference, shame on you. It was a glorious movie. Well, entertaining. It's almost a cult movie at this point, I think. Yeah. Anyway, it's the state of gaming and for once, if you're hearing this at the time of release, it's actually ahead of the Swedish version. That's never happened before. So it's so hot that you might scorch yourself. And what is our counting streak now? Is it six? I think maybe six, yeah. Could be. I would dare to say five at least. So almost half a year of not screwing up.

00:00:59That's pretty good. At least for being us. That is also an exclusive. Also considering that we kind of left it for half a year. So I say we are on a hot streak. Oh, on a hot streak. You know what I'm saying? We're definitely on a hot streak. On a too hot of a streak. So clarification. We are actually recording this in June. And if you had a map in front of you, you could see that Sweden at this moment. uh is in a bit of a i'm not sure heat wave sweltering heat wave it's pretty pretty goddamn hot and we are for obvious reasons indoors which is horrible yeah we're doing it for you we don't have acs we do not and even if we did we couldn't really have it on because that would interfere with our audio so we're doing this for you fans yes yes we are

00:01:53Think about that for a moment. We're doing it for the fan, but without the fans. So no AC, no keys, and no snowmobiles. Yes, kind of. Drey style. Anyway, so maybe we should do a small little recap, even though we've done this a few times now. But this is, as we've said many times, the monthly recap of what has been going down throughout the month. And usually that could include pretty much everything game related. But this time it will only really be about the not E3 shows that was part of this month. And there was a lot of... Actually, I just heard yesterday that Nintendo finally had a date for their showcase. But I'm not sure when. I don't think it was this week. But they were the only ones that didn't have a show earlier during the month. So that will happen.

00:02:50A lot of people thought they would skip out on this year. And we will go into all the details about what this show is about, but I think we should at least be honest to ourselves and to our fans out there and, you know, start off the show in an official capacity. So over to you, Linda. And in a traditional fashion, there was no sound. But you will now hear the bongos. That looks pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. What is it? It's orangey-ish? Yeah, it's orange with like a green feather. It looks like a Christmas feather. Yeah. Almost. It's a Bianca and, okay, trying to pronounce this, Lassi Gose. That was very Swedish. Very Swedish. But was it also a very Swedish taste? It might be, although I think Lassi might refer to the Indian... Yogurt thingy.

00:03:53yeah yeah which is very sweet this is also sweet and a little sour it's good okay so the meat is sour yeah which is not too often you find in an in an ale no but i mean i'll take it this is this is really good it's from a good brewery sweet good swedish brewery we we kind of usually do this but is it a solid 3.5 out of five or is it even a four This is, you know, just because I love this brewery so much, this is definitely a four. It's the soft four. Okay. Or a sweet four, just to tie it in. Or a sour swore. Sour swore. Sour four. That's hard to pronounce. A sour four. That almost sounds like a drink in itself. Give me a sour four, please. Could be. Quick. So, Oskar, I saw that you had a very summery beverage today.

00:04:51Priska, so this is a Riesling and peach. So it's a cider. Sounds pretty good. Is it smooth? Yeah, it's... There is... Yeah, you can feel... It's a bit of a small wine taste combined with the cider. It's like a strong cider, even if the percentage isn't that high. It feels like more of a strong bow character of it. Sounds pretty good. Sounds pretty good. Okay. So, so far we have the summer theme going and I will like land my rum and Coke, which I think could be described as a summer drink. Although you could probably get away with it all year round. You could, but it was like, you just stepped out of a ship onto some Caribbean island and someone just gave you a drink. Yes. Yes. I've always wanted to do that post though.

00:05:49I know. The only problem with that is that you need to have a keg. Yes. And that is steady. Yes, very steady. But it's kind of heavy to have it just for that pose. And people probably look at me and be like, what the hell? You could stand on your balcony. I could do that. I could do that. In fact, I might even, if I find a keg, I will. Anyway, I think we are three for three on the summer theme. when it comes to beverages, we should probably head back into the actual show and talk about what we're supposed to talk about, if that makes any sense. So E3 was a thing. For all of you that have been joining the show circuit during the last couple of years, E3 might actually need some explanation at this point. So it used to be the big summer show, like the main event where you had all the major

00:06:48companies in game development and all the major studios and they would show you stuff usually stuff that was up and coming for kind of the next couple of years but E3 has sort of been dying out for the last two or three years some would argue that it's been dying out for even longer than that but we have enjoyed even the later year versions of E3 so we have talked about this at some occasions previously that we if it dies we would miss it for sure but the last couple of years we have had a bunch of other shows trying to fill the gap that e3 has left and this year was absolutely crazy i think we had what was it like 10 different shows or something like that so many shows it's a lot of shows especially considering many of them had a couple of exclusives so you had to actually look at all of them if you wanted the entire lineup

00:07:46And some of them went on for a long, long time. Too long, you could say. So in this state of gaming for June, we will take some of those games that we liked and some of the rumors and talk about that. Because if we were trying to give you the full list, this would not be a 40-minute thing. It would be four hours and counting. And we don't have that sort of time before we die from heat stroke, you know. it's just before the beer before we're out of beer also that also that and as we all know when we are dried out can't talk about games it doesn't work no it's one of those things so anyway but it's just how it is we have a list uh it's well packed with games but i thought we would do if you are okay with this little thing we will just mention the shows that we pick the games from but then we'll just go around and pick random games that we liked for

00:08:43any reason that we can't come up with and then we'll do that until we run out of time and then we'll end the show and I would still recommend people to look up the individual shows if you are super interested in the full lineup of games because we simply won't have the time to go through them all and there were quite a lot of good games this year so it might be worth your time if you are interested in game rumors and trailers and stuff like that obviously this will be a show fully focused on upcoming games. So we will not mention other news as we usually do. So should we start from the top and just mention that we are featuring games from the OTK Expo, the Summer Game Fest and the Xbox Showcase Show. Those were the ones that we will be focusing on in this episode. And if we have any time left, we might cheat a little bit.

00:09:41mention one or two other games if we really really feel like we want to do that so Linda do you want to start if if you have any favorites that you want just must get out there I'll I'll definitely start okay uh and this is a game from the Microsoft Bethesda show oh yeah we should have mentioned that that it was actually the Microsoft Bethesda show but it's the same thing now so you know yeah and this game is called the last case of a Benedict Fox And we talked about this a little bit. Other than it's a really cool name. It sounds almost like a book. It's kind of like the curious case of Benjamin Buttons or something like that. Yeah, like an Edwardian story about some dude. It's Benedict Fox. Yeah, yeah, and it kind of is it feels like it feels like a big story I have been no idea but it kind of looks like it from the Teaser that we just get to see so we this was one of those games that was actually not announced ahead of the show A lot of people had never heard of this which is kind of fun. No, it's always good to have a few Dark horses in in the race and this was definitely one of them and it had a cool style as well The style was really cool. It was

00:11:07noir-ish and it was Tim Burton and his little Cthulhu. Tim Burton goes Cthulhu with a twist. And it was kind of cozy as well. Yeah, and you get to follow, of course, Benedict Fox when he's playing some kind of detective. Yes. Trying to figure out what happened in a house. Yeah, it's kind of like a weird Sherlock Holmes thing, maybe. I have to say, we only watched the trailer, obviously, so we don't know more than you guys, but this is our interpretation of the trailer. I think we were all sort of thinking that this could be a cool thing. I wouldn't be surprised if it's somewhat small, though. I mean, it looked really well made, so I'm not ripping on the game, but it felt indie to some extent. Yes, I think so, too. So, I mean, indie games in general,

00:12:05are usually not longer than like five or six hours at the most because it's usually small teams. I would say that games like Stardew Valley is obviously not in that bracket because they're like more 50, 60 hours, but they're the off case and not the general case in this example. So hopefully the story will weigh that up a little bit. And we don't really know much about it, but it must be some sort of detective thing. Maybe with supernatural stuff. Yeah, he has some sort of demon companion that talks to him. Yeah. All right, I'll just take another one from the list. And it's all from the Xbox Bethesda show, and it's Hollow Knight. Well, am I interpreting this right, that it looked to be a female heroine this time? Yeah, it is. Yeah. So maybe it's Hollow Knight-ness. Is there a female knight?

00:13:05i don't think there is i i think the connotation in english would be yeah valkyrie but that's the norse version i think otherwise it would probably be female knight or lady knight yeah lady yes yes but hollow knight silk song is a cool name i'm not sure what silk song means but i love it yeah it's because she has a thread and uh needle and do we know anything about where this game takes place. Yeah. I mean, the graphic looks very similar. They have left the kingdom that Hollow Knight has played out in and wandered off to a kind of new world where this new adventure takes place. Yeah. I hope that this game is equally as good as Hollow Knight was because that was an awesome game and it still holds up really, really well.

00:14:02I actually saw a lot of streamers starting up the game in the weeks since, because they wanted to check out the original game before Silksong arrives. We should mention that the Xbox Showcase actually had the little extra feature that all the games that they showed will be released within 12 months. So a lot of people took that as a sign that they should start with the earlier games in series, just so that they would be sort of up. uh and running when the new games arrive and um hollow knight six song is definitely on my radar i i'm not sure how long the first game was because they had dlcs and stuff didn't they and they had true endings and other things well it depends kind of for me casual getting 100% and that was not included the DLC for kind of the boss rush or the ultimate but I think like 40 hours ish that's a big old game but it's a big old good game but then again like if you know what you're doing I would guess it's about

00:15:11oh yeah in the normal way and the speed runners are doing it as we're recording this episode summer games done quick is actually ongoing and holo night is always on the bracket nowadays i think so it's definitely a speedrun game which is kind of fun considering that you said it took you 40 hours to do it like in the regular style so yeah it's pretty cool but that was also kind of like uh that was the first run also right yeah first run but also with all of these dlcs and hollow knight is hard oh it's no joke so it's kind of like yeah it's one of those games that looks really cute and then you die but then you have these kind of things 400 like the quest where you're supposed to carry a fragile flower from one point of the map to the other one and that is like if you miss the last jump it's like what seven minutes reset and then do it again i mean i love it and i hate it at the same time it's one of those one of those that that's a real world problem it is anyway i think uh a lot of people will be looking forward to the new hollow knight um definitely

00:16:25Oskar, do you want to pick something from the Xbox show or do you want to pick something from one of the others? I was about to say Starfield because it's... Yeah. But if we want to pick something that is not might be these kind of top three super hyped games, I would actually go with One Piece because I think that could be a pretty sweet JRPG in the fields of like Dragon Quest and stuff like that. we we should probably mention that one piece is one of those weird anime shows it's i i think both you and i tried to watch the the actual show for a little bit and it's a weird ride it's um a bunch of very special pirate people roaming i think they're looking for like the true treasure or something like that but it's

00:17:22almost as much about just being faithful to the pirate lifestyle and uh because it's japan it's like super dramatic super over the top a lot of action and they all look kind of funny and they have a lot of weird special powers and they look kind of creepy they they do look kind of creepy but it's done in the classical drawn style of uh dragon so um i think i do i actually agree with you 100 oscar because this game looked really good uh which is weird because usually this the games connected to this uh show are either straight up action games or fighting games yeah so not not big and girthy g rpgs no this looked really good and this was the summer fest just yes yes and also we should mention that because the the original show of one piece usually have island hopping it's easy to make games because they can just arrive at a new island and you don't have to think about what has happened previously in the show so it's probably a really good world to create new content in so i have high hopes that you can jump in kind of on a rookie level

00:18:41like you and i and not miss everything that they talk about because that would suck yeah otherwise we need to watch like a thousand episodes yeah or you could play the um uh the game on game pass where you i'm not sure what the the warrior style game where you just beat hundreds of hundreds of like low-level enemies because that game goes through the entire show scenario per scenario so when you get to the final levels you've actually caught up with the main story pretty cool um so I've played through like two-thirds of the entire anime show but in a very like compressed way so that's it's a pretty cool thing if you if you're into that genre uh where you just run around and beat the living hell out of thousands of grunt anyway this yeah this looks really really good and um I think I'll get it

00:19:38i'm not sure on which platform though what else we did mention starfield so maybe we should like go into a bit more detail about that that was probably the biggest game for bethesda and a lot of people hoped it would be out like yesterday it's not but it looked better than a lot of their games have done in like recent years I hope that this is the starting point of the redemption arc for Bethesda, because they used to do good buggy games, and then they just did buggy games for a while. And then they did buggy games. Yeah, if they did... So, I mean, I think Fallout 76 is probably the best example of them not doing it great anymore. They released a game that was just awful. And then they've been patching it up to like release level for two or three years, I think. So now it's okay. But it's not more okay than it should have been on the day of release. So I hope that Microsoft buying Bethesda will kind of get them to make their games a little better. But we'll see. Starfield is anyway looking to be a big, big old style adventure. So yeah, it didn't...

00:21:02It's hard to say because they obviously had done a trailer that looked good and gameplay is on their choosing. So they obviously don't show us stuff that looks iffy. But I would say I have like a semi-legit hype for the game. I don't want to stretch it any further than that in case they screw up again. But I haven't been this hyped for a Bethesda game for quite some time. i think they should show it kind of iffy just because then they would get a lot of commentary from people who want to play this game and they will get like oh okay we should do that we should put that in or we should fix this yes you mean like almost like an early access style yeah and kind of like a decoy like we want to find out what the market really wants so this is that's cool we're putting out this iffy looking game and then

00:21:56we get all the insights on what we should do. That's actually not too bad of an idea. I think Bethesda probably has the... I'm not sure if it's a problem, but they probably have two different groups of fans. Like the ones that like the old school Fallout games and the ones that are more into the new style Fallout games. I'm not sure if you can combine that in a good way because one of them is very complex. And with a lot of menus, a lot of options, a lot of detail management. And Fallout 4 was really not. That was easy access, action-focused adventuring. You could play that game and say that I'm playing Fallout. Yes. But you weren't really. I mean, I know a lot of people that would say that the best Fallout game after Fallout 2 was Fallout New Vegas.

00:22:53which they didn't make. So, you know, they do have the hardcore fans. And in that game, you had survival mechanics that you have to eat and drink, otherwise you would starve to death. And I would be shocked if they would ever add something like that back into their games. I guess there are other games if you want the more hardcore side, like... Yeah, The Forest or, like, more survival games that we now call the survival genre games have that stuff. these days but it used to be back in the old days they had that in adventure games as well okay linda back to you all right so another game that i found really kind of intriguing is one called as dusk falls which is a good name it's a very good name and it's a very kind of it's it's a drawn and it feels kind of like watching a movie i'm not sure how they're actually going to make this into a game

00:23:51It's kind of like a... It's very arty. It's very arty. Yeah, that's what it feels like. It would have been a good fit for the... What was that novel? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Luda Naracon with the narrative. Yep. I think it would have fit right in there. And this is... It looks super cool, and it's a family that they get into a bit of a trouble on a road trip, I think. It looked to be a road trip game. Yeah, but it's also some kind of a mystery, which I found really intriguing. They got themselves into some sort of trouble. It was in the Midwest, right? Yeah. I think. You got to a city where nothing really ever happened, but then something happened in the city. And they had some kind of a tagline or the voiceover said, all families have secrets. And we know how that is. I hope it's a good game. I hope they haven't just gone for like a special graphical style and that the game is...

00:25:05story sex and the yeah exactly it's just a cool package because they had them it's hard to describe it's not a fluid uh no so it's kind of it's more like motion like an old school camera that you see like every fourth frame yeah so they move but you can't really see them moving yeah it's a planned jerkiness in in movement which is pretty cool i haven't seen that in any other game so i am hoping that this will be a cool thing it looked to be somewhat long Or at least I got the feeling that was a pretty substantial game, which could be cool. I mean, it depends on the story, doesn't it? If it's a good story, I don't mind it being long. But if it's just a cool graphic style, it's like, yeah, a couple of hours and I'm probably done. Yeah. At the very least, I think I'm going to watch this. Someone play this game. Yeah. I'm with you on that one. If I'm not going to play it, I'll definitely head over to a good Let's Play or gameplay series and check it out.

00:26:03Um, I should add a game because I actually saw it being played during like the last couple of days and it was Dorf Romantic, which is a weird name. I guess Dorf is the, I mean, it's the German word for village and romantic, I guess, just means that it's like cozy and going for that good vibes. And when we saw this trailer, it wasn't super... clear what type of game this was it looked like it was could be like a sim city type of game but having seen some streamers play it's really not it's more of a puzzle game so you have these hexagonal shaped tiles and you have different values on them so you might have like a house you might have a field of wheat or a forest and then you have to then you have a stack of tiles next to you maybe i think was 90 times

00:27:00And your goal is to make them last for as long as possible. So if you have a tile that matches the one you have on the board, you might get some bonuses and you might finish quests because you get new quests all the time that you have to complete. And if you do, you are rewarding more tiles. So it's basically just trying to buy yourself another round of the game. So it's a survival puzzle game, which is... it actually looks really really fun it sounds cool yeah so it sounds much cooler than yeah and then you build this world which looks pretty cool as you go along but you're really building a sort of like alternate puzzle i would say so and it wasn't super expensive either it was like 10 bucks or something like that so yeah perfect i'm not sure if it if it will show up on game pass eventually some puzzle games do so

00:27:58uh i would say keep your eye open for that before buying it if you think it's a bit steep and you're not into puzzle games but if you are i think it's well worth the price for sure all right oscar back to you what's your second pick of the show street fighter six bam that was quick almost like an uppercut yep so which number are we up to now for those who are not street fighter fans is it number six yep And yeah, I mean, if you haven't been living under a rock for quite some time, you probably know what Street Fighter is about. And this looks very Street Fighter. Yeah, I think they have got it to a great spot where they have a new modern look and also a flu to their... mechanics and combos combining with sticking true to what street fighter is all about and keeping the format without going in with any crazy ideas that they had back done previously with kind of everything they've been in a couple of their previous games they've been experimenting but i think they tried to as you said go back to what everyone loved so the thing is that um

00:29:18really like it because I get the feeling without having played it of course that it resembles a bit of about Street Fighter alpha which is one of the best entrance in my opinion at least so now it's a well it's it's nothing really new it's just the more of the good things that has been yeah known for a while when it comes to Street Fighter I'm actually pleased when it's not a bunch of new stuff I just want The old stuff, more beautiful, more solid, and working from day one. Yeah. And we should add, though, that Street Fighter, I think the last two Street Fighter games, they usually have, what, like 15 starting guys or something like that, and they add in new characters through Season Pass. So it usually starts with 15 and ends up with, like, 30 or something. And they usually throw in, like, one new, new guy. So that's...

00:30:15their way of adding new value to the series they usually have one brand new character that hasn't been in the games before or they dust off a very old character that hasn't been in games for like the last 10 years or something like that i think if i'll jump in on this and i am somewhat rearing to do that i'll do it like on day one if i do because if i go back or jump in like a couple of months in to this All the sweaty dudes will be there and I'll just get the living snot beaten out of me in 10 seconds. That is true. It's one of those games. This is also a great game to have now when we are back to actually be able to have couch-sitting events. It's always a good thing to just bring up. I would argue that there are two genres that work really good in couch environment, and that's arcade racing games, like Mario Kart and stuff like that, and fighting games. I would add twin-stick shooters. Twin-stick shooters, yes, but usually you can only be like two people. And a run could potentially take a while if you don't suck. But Street Fighter, I mean, even if you're really, really good,

00:31:36i mean around this what is it uh even if you have seconds yeah if i think if you have the timer on max it's like a minute and a half yeah so games three minutes or something like that so you usually have the time to uh get beaten a good 10 to 15 times and also you there is nowadays also a great thing of like the handicap system so that you can actually tweak it a bit then of course it will never be as as fun is some if someone is super great but usually these are these kind of games that you have somewhere and just bring them to occasion so it's a good social game for sure also one of those games that actually if you are interested in seeing how the pros do it worth to look at some esport when they have because it's on another level it's it's it's almost like it's a different game it's like i've never seen that move ever

00:32:34And if you are really liking what you're doing or seeing, I would really push you to invest in an arcade stick. Oh, yeah. For sure. Definitely. They're usually a bit pricey. So try it out. See if it's for you. And if it is, if you get one of those, the game will be just 10 times better. It's one of those things. I would say, usually when you buy super expensive controllers and stuff like that, not... always worth it but when it comes to fighting games always worth it yeah also the regular controls will break if you have a really intense couch that has happened that has happened yeah then make sure to spend those extra dollars and go for the kind of official brand because like they are built to be beaten yeah third party might not be the way to go in this particular scenario so yeah we usually don't stick up for the big the big boys in the pond when it comes to where you should spend your money but this time it actually might be worth it um I think we should mention that there were a couple of really cool space focused horror games

00:33:51in this this year's show lineup i think the biggest one or most known one for sure is probably um is it callisto at least i think yeah i think maybe yes because they they had like a month before the the show season they they did a big splash with like you should really jump into our channel because we're going to show a new trailer i'm going to talk about gameplay and you can see if we managed to capture the the spirit from the dead space series and now they actually showed both the trailer and some gameplay for the callisto protocol and it looks very dead space for without being dead space in any way shape or form i don't think i i wouldn't be surprised but i'm basing this on absolutely nothing but

00:34:46Seeing as the company that did the Dead Space series is defunct, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people who are involved in this project actually were from that studio. I'd be surprised if they weren't. Yeah, it looks so much alike that I would be very surprised if they didn't have some of their key talent working on this as well. But yeah, it looked really, really good. It looked really dark. uh very much scary and gory obviously which was a thing that the original game had in buckets like you dismembered stuff with big tools and it looked like you did that in this game as well and you could also push things around with telekinesis and one of those things you could push people or zombies or monsters into were big fans yeah so really gory in a good way

00:35:42In a good way. Super cozy trailer. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, we actually, weirdly enough, are sort of running out of time for this one. Yes, I think maybe one more game and then we'll have to wrap things up. So any particular game that we just must mention. I mean, it's a tough pick because we have a lot of games. I think maybe then I'll choose the game that we don't really know anything about. The Hideo Kojima's new game. Good choice. We know nothing. We know definitely nothing and we know that it might take some time. Well, that's the only thing we always know when that gentleman is involved. It might take some time. Yes. But we should mention that this is a first for him working with... Microsoft. Microsoft, yeah. So that's a thing. And he also was talking about that they were the only ones who could provide the technical hardware for him to be able to do this project that he's always wanted to do. This is so weird. Yes, because what the hell could that be? What's the thing that he's always wanted to do? Has he ever mentioned what that would be?

00:37:02I have no idea. And I'm more and more thinking that the technical hardware is money. Yeah. Well, they do have some of that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, quite a lot of that, to be fair. But, I mean, is this a good thing? Or is it a weird thing? Or is it a bad thing? Or should he just get over himself and get back to what he did best? What he's good at. Yes. I mean, me personally, of course, I think that he should just get back to making fantastic Silent Hill games, but obviously that's not happening. I mean, we just said that Microsoft has a lot of money. They should buy that brand. They should definitely buy that brand. And me saying that's obviously not going to happen is me also trying to send vibes into the universe so that it will happen. It would be so good.

00:37:58I mean, we've talked about this a lot of times, but that's one of the series that demands or deserves at least a new version of the old game. Definitely. Anyway, we might. It's kind of weird because he was part of this show where everything was supposed to be released within 12 months. I mean, obviously, he's like the exception to that format. he's the other side of that coin definitely uh but he said that this is going to be a whole new game a whole new experience so it's uh at least it's a little bit exciting yeah it is I mean let's face it he's weird but he's also sort of like a genius in some ways yeah so uh fingers crossed that this will come out within our lifetime and that'll also be good you know

00:38:51within his lifetime i'm not sure how old that gentleman is now but i have no idea but i'm betting he's a bit older than we are at least yes and a bit more um i would say a bit more prone to get stuck in in projects as well that he is so hopefully he can uh he can make us all proud yes uh i will actually just mention one more thing and that is that a lot of the like games that are already out are getting updates in one form or another so if you have games like um i don't know cuphead for instance or maybe you are a big fan of paladins and smite and games like that that are available through epic and game pass just have a quick look and see if they have updates because a lot of those would be getting big updates during the summer and that might be good to have when you are off on your holiday yeah and if there's nothing else that you want to mention really quickly i'll just pass the summer fest balloon over to oscar to wrap things up also i should say that if you want to see other content from us we have some other english content on

00:40:11the channels that we are available at. And that would be SoundCloud and Spotify. Over to you, Oskar. Okay, let's put some ribs on the grill. Put something nice in the glass. And hopefully there will be a sweet summer. And see you in the next State of Gaming episode when it's a bit colder, maybe. Or even warmer. Mayhaps, mayhaps. Either way, it'll be at the end of August. So we wish you a good summer. We do. And see you later. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.